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Advice from Seth Klarman

1/21/2021

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​Seth Klarman is the chief executive and portfolio manager of the Baupost Group which he founded in 1982.  He is a deep value investor who has outperformed the market by a wide margin over the past 38 years.  Over the years I have read everything I can find on his investing approach and I always pay attention to what he is buying and selling when his 13-F filings are released (Feb, May, Aug, Nov). ​
Warren Buffett likes to buy wonderful companies at fair prices.  Seth Klarman is happy to buy average companies at wonderful prices.  
Following are my notes on Klarman:     
  • Speculating vs. Investing
    • No one knows what the market will do so trying to predict it is a waste of time
    • Market timing is speculating
    • Investors have a good chance of achieving long term success; speculators are likely to lose money over time
    • Investments throw of cash flow; speculations do not
    • Successful investors are unemotional and use greed and fear of others for their benefit
    • Prices move up and down for two reasons
      • Change in business reality (or perception of change)
      • Short term supply and demand
    • Greed leads people to seek shortcuts to success
  • Defining Investment Goals
    • Avoiding loss is key
    • Focus on risk first and return second
    • A substantial loss can greatly impact standard of living while a comparable gain may not improve it commensurately
    • Consistent “good” returns over a long period of time are better than excellent returns followed by a meaningful decline
      • A 50% decline in one year requires a 100% increase to break even.  This could take twelve years in a low return world
      • 16% for a decade is worth more than 20% for nine years and a 15% loss in year ten
    • Focus on approach, not outcome. 
      • Having an annual return goal can encourage unreasonable risk taking
    • A significant ongoing commitment of time is a prerequisite for successful long term value investing
  • Margin of Safety
    • Difficult to analyze Tech, commercial banks, and P&C insurance so many value investors avoid them
    • Value investing can work well with inflation
    • Look for overfunded pension fund or real estate carried on books below market value
    • Technical analysis is a waste of time
    • Large caps are much more efficient with more competition
      • Charlie Munger “Don’t try to figure out Merck’s pipeline vs. Pfizer’s, it’s too hard.  Go where there is less competition, where you have an edge”
  • Key Elements
    • Bottom-up – not top down
    • Absolute performance – not relative
      • Hold cash if you can’t find anything
    • Focus more on risk than return
      • Risk is the probability and the potential amount of loss
      • Risk reduction
        • Adequate diversification
        • Hedges
        • Margin of safety
  • Business Valuation
    • DCF
      • Best used in a high return business with stable cash flows
      • However - Very difficult to forecast the future
      • Contradiction – To calculate present value, you must predict the future, yet the future is not predictable
      • Only answer is be conservative
    • Liquidation Value
      • Best used for unprofitable business with price below book value
      • Cash worth 100% of book value
      • Investments worth market value
      • A/R very close to book value
      • Inventory more difficult
        • Raw material or finished product?
        • Risk of technological or other obsolescence?
      • Fixed Assets also difficult to estimate
      • Short cut is Ben Graham net nets
        • Current Assets less Total Liabilities
        • No value placed on Land, buildings, equipment, growth, patents, trademarks etc.
        • Need to also consider OBS items (underfunded pension)
    • Dividend discount model is not useful because dividends are only a small fraction of corporate cash flows
  • Areas to look for potential investments
    • Filtering can be helpful for net nets – but still need to look more closely
      • Databases can be out of date or inaccurate
    • Daily stocks with large % declines
    • New 52 week low list
    • Elimination of a dividend
    • Stocks below $5 (Institutions unwilling to own)
    • Small with infrequent trading
    • Year-end tax selling can depress shares
    • Spinoffs
      • Analysts normally don’t cover them – low trading volume = low commissions
      • Info not readily available for a few months
      • Holders of the parent company don’t want to mess with a small cap
      • Temporary supply/demand imbalance with initial selling
    • Insider buying
      • Insiders know the company best
      • They sell for many reasons but only buy for one – they think the stock is going higher
    • Need to determine why a stock is undervalued
      • Pending litigation?
      • Off balance sheet liabilities?
      • Competition launching superior product?
  • Portfolio Management
    • Appropriate diversification
      • 10-15 holdings in different industries
      • It’s not how many different things you own, but how different the things you do own are and the risks they entail
    • Hedging
      • Diversification does not protect you from market risk
      • Short entire S&P 500 against portfolio of large cap stocks
      • Not always smart to hedge
        • Should be willing to take on more risk if available return is sufficient
    • Liquidity
      • Opportunity cost of illiquidity is high
    • Staying in touch with the market
      • Problem with buy and hold is that the market can create good opportunities each day based on short term movements
      • Does not mean watching every market tick and doing short term trading
    • Buying
      • Must resist fear and greed
      • Buy partial position to leave room to average down
        • If you are not willing to average down, you are speculating instead of investing
    • Selling
      • Wrong way to sell
        • Setting target sell price at time of purchase
        • P/E ratio target or P/B
        • % gain target
        • Using stop loss prices limits downside risk but is crazy – you should be increasing the position!
      • Right way to sell
        • Based on business value which is always changing
        • Don’t sell an undervalued company and pay tax on a gain if there is nothing better to buy
    • Leverage is neither necessary nor appropriate for most investors
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